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Gear to get for starting out in Production

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Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
February 08, 2008 01:37PM


Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
February 17, 2008 11:20AM


my advice is as follows....

1. do not limit yourself musically....

listen to every type of music you can, coz that distorted guitar riff that was badly recorded on some swedish hair rock shit from the 80's may be something that could trigger an idea.....

2. equipment wise I have always been a fan of hardware instruments as opposed to a computer but recently through other work I have found pc's to be a wealth of opportunity with regards access to sounds & great for storage....

3. An AKAI MPC 60/500/1000/2000/2000XL/2500/3000/4000 or 5000 is not an essential tool for hip hop.......
I have never owned one/used one on any production....
people tend to look at what there production idols use & automatically think they NEED this to make hip hop.....
its true the newer models have come a long way from the older models but it still doesnt justify buying one for me as I dont need it to do what I got to do....
thats jus a little advice....
I make my music on these:

[www.yamaha.com]

[www.roland.com]

I still have not bought an mpc & I am not saying I never will but for now I dont need one to complete work....

4. Composing is a thing I have worked on for the last while as opposed to sampling but the heart of hip hop is sampling....
Its great that some dudes can play like grade 9 shit but it doesnt have that "feel"....
there are many schools of thought on this issue & i feel a balance between both is probably the best for me.....
some people who dont sample act all righteous like "I dont steal music, I'm an artist.....bollocks!
yet you will download some "SCOTT STORCH PLATINUM DRUM FOLDER" from rapidshare....
lets be real here you guys who compose are no better than a guy who samples....
I hold respect for people who can respect both sides of the spectrum......
there is no real or fake....essentially you should make hip hop that firstly you yourself & secondly hip hop that has the following....depth & meaning....remember we are capturing a moment in time everytime we post a track.....it will always be there.....so dont half arse it....

5. DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SPEND A LITTLE MONEY!!!!if you don't invest in yourself no one else will!

6. Final piece of advice, it does not matter what equipment you have....it all boils down to how you work with your equipment....some people are listeners & others musicians....find out which one you truly are before you decide to pursue this....NOT EVERYONE CAN DO THIS GOOD!

Colin Gerard Hanley, RBMA Irish Representative 2005
Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
February 18, 2008 10:03AM


good man Gerard, it doesnt really matter WOT ye use te make yer music, its wot ye do with it. i generally use software altough i've a small bit of software but de way i see it is if i don't need it, den wots de point in me gettin it!! 'specially bein a broke cunt, don't have dat much money te spend on shit so ye end up buyin necessity's as opposed te luxuries

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Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
February 18, 2008 03:05PM


wize words from collie and scooba steve,


and on another note


maverick sabre still uses some dodgy cheap peice of software,

i think...

and he pushes some sick muzack,

mouse
Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
February 18, 2008 03:47PM


zactly man, its not de size o de boat but de motion of de ocean


or so billy tells me

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Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
February 23, 2008 10:06PM


Lemon face samples deadly shit! I wont give away his secrets but seriously mad obscure shit i never heard of. And his beats are deadly!

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Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
February 24, 2008 01:49PM



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> Lemon face samples deadly shit! I wont give away
> his secrets but seriously mad obscure shit i never
> heard of. And his beats are deadly!


i got treated to a peak of some of his stuff,obscure is putting it lightly

Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
March 27, 2008 08:31PM

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Anyone do any field recordings to get samples?
As in go out into the real world with a mic and a portable recording thing and just record sounds?



Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
March 28, 2008 02:09PM


have dun n de past, not in a long time at dis stage

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Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
March 28, 2008 02:16PM


fella i know does that he does mad electronica stuff uses a shotgun mic. he sampled a penny spinning around and used it



Go on the pats!!!!!!!!
Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 14, 2008 07:53PM

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i visit a lot of production forums and gear related places where people are insanely into their gear. if you actually go to these places and LISTEN to the music you will realise that sometimes people who are making music on a zoom sample track are making hotter shit than people using an MV or an MPC 4000. it's fucking crazy shit when i actually get to think about it. a sampler is nothing more than a triggering device anyway so when you actually load your sample into your machine their is only so much you can do with it without using outboard gear.

Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 02:36AM

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im sure everybody here is too advanced for these but these are the warbeats tutorials using fruity loops.
[www.youtube.com]

and even if you don't like the guy check out boon doc and his videos. watch some of those and the videos that link off them. they show you basically how to traditionally structure beats and stuff. even if somebody is using reason in those videos or an MPC 4000 you can still apply the basic principles to your own production type.

if you're any popular software/hardware to make beats (reason, fruity loops, MPC) then there are literally hundreds if not thousands of beat making videos on youtube. although the majority are utter crap some are good just for the fact that you get to glimpse how others work.

wurd up yo peace

Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 02:40AM


one of my favourites



keep makin' that crack booyyy



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Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 02:50AM

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LOL!!!

not as dope as this bad bad bizoy



Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 02:55AM


ah quality

whats with 'beat keeper'?



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Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 03:02AM

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who knows. i feel sorry for some of those guys tho fo realz.
i mean they are literally clueless.

Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 03:06AM


its usually the young white middle class american kids that are the worst


but fucc it yo


they be makin' that crack and all



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Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 03:24AM

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they gotza hustle fo real yo'.
they keep on that grizind just like the rest of us.

Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 04:20AM

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THE BEST VIDEOS ARE THE AKAI AND ROLAND ONES THO.

THAT GUY MIKE FROM AKAI IS OK BUT A BIT OF AN IDIOT ERIC IS A TOTAL MORON WHO DOESN'T HAVE A FUCK WHUT HE BE TALKING ABOUT.

check the youtizzle for the official NAMM or demonstration vids from akai. mike is the kinda fat dude with glasses and eric is the skinny shaved head one who looks like he just walked out of a random college.

Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 04:21AM

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defo check the old video of eric with the mpc 1000 and 2500 i think he acts like a moron in it IMO

Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 04:23AM


oh yeah m fairly familiar with them at this stage haha

its funny they market these products at hiphop producers mainly because they know thats where theyll most likely be used...but the guys they have in their promotional videos dont seem very hiphop at all
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April 21, 2008 04:28AM

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this is whut happens when they try to use hip-hop guys.




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April 21, 2008 04:34AM


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> this is whut happens when they try to use hip-hop
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seriously that made me wanna cop a 500...i need some new sh1t in my life...

noone fucks with marley marl...i'm sure on mpc-forums the other day someone was trying to school people on the top hiphop producers and had never heard of him
Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 04:50AM

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I EFFING LOVE GEAR RELATED VIDEOS. I COULD WATCH THEM ALL DAY. THEY'VE REPLACED THE SHOPPING CHANNELS AS MY MAIN SOURCE OF ENTERTAINMENT.





check out the dude with the 303 in the second vid. pay close attention from 0:55 to 1:10. he says he gonna pitch the sample down a bit and then pretends to do something with the machine. when he plays the original sample he presses pad 6 but when he has "adjusted" the sample he presses pad 7.
LOLzer. people are crizazy...
the only problem with those roland SPs is that they suck big time at altering pitch. even changing it a tiny bit fucks the shit out of your sound.

Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 04:56AM

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these are just brilliant.
at 1:20 he says his MPC has been used a lot and then 5:55 he says "excuse the sound set, i don't think i've ever used this machine" or something. WTF?!!!!!!!!?!!!!!! i don't care if it's a store model or he lent it to a friend or something. i find this sort of stuff funny.

Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 04:57AM

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this is dopeness from vinroc. the editing in this video is funky fresh like monkey flesh.

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April 21, 2008 05:00AM


Bad Ta$te Wrote:
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> I EFFING LOVE GEAR RELATED VIDEOS. I COULD WATCH
> THEM ALL DAY. THEY'VE REPLACED THE SHOPPING
> CHANNELS AS MY MAIN SOURCE OF ENTERTAINMENT.
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> the only problem with those roland SPs is that
> they suck big time at altering pitch. even
> changing it a tiny bit fucks the shit out of your
> sound.

i like that sound though...but it was a bad example in the video

my ideal sampling setup would be an sp1200 sequenced on a 2kxl

sp's are hard to come by here though
Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 05:07AM

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believe me you wouldn't like this.
it degrades the sound horribly and leaves artefacts. it just doesn't sound nice. it sounds all clippy and weird.
the roland SPs have mad FX though. my ideal sampling setup would be the MPC 2000xl and an SP303 (the 303 unlike the 404 has 20 bit converters which gives it a kind of gritty sound). the 303 also has mad FX. id just use the 303 to compress my drums with and then do everything on the 2k. one thing about the 303 and 404 tho is that they bump harder than any MPC (ive only heard 2k, 1000 and 2500 not 4000, 3000 or 60) straight from the outputs.

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April 21, 2008 05:26AM


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> this is dopeness from vinroc. the editing in this
> video is funky fresh like monkey flesh.


i love the part where he pics up a record and says "what the fucc?" under his breath
Re: Gear to get for starting out in Production
April 21, 2008 05:36AM

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oh i gotz mad love for my man vinroc. he's fucking super dope.
check his myspace for the funk
[www.myspace.com]

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